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The anon meme. I've done it before, I'm sure. If you correctly guess yourself, I'll cross that one off the list.

Done by random number generator!

1. I don't know you very well, except as an OTP writer. Please continue to bring your stunning talent to my communities! But could you stand to lighten up a bit?
2. You'd better be taking good care of my imouto over there. *eyes you* I expect her back in less than three pieces. Get that? <3
3. You're one of the biggest drama queens I've ever met. Your problems may be real, I have no way of knowing, but I don't want to be the one to help you deal with them.
4. My only regret is that you don't have AIM! Think of all the havoc we could wreak! Alas. I still owe you that Saiyuki fic, too.

5. Your OTP writing is gorgeously lyrical! But I hear you write Ed/Envy, too, which scares me. O.o
6. I think you worry too much. Have some faith in yourself! Write what you want to write; you can't get through life (or fandom) without stepping on some people's toes.
7. Your icons make me swoon every time I see them. I stand in both respect and fear of your mighty snarking skills. And I always enjoy talking with you.
8. You're not one of my close friends, but I see you're a force to be reckoned with in the circles we both travel! Your subject lines always make me laugh.
9. You are AWESOME! I wonder if I'll get to meet you again before you leave the States?
10. You give me more wonderful fic ideas than anyone else I know. And then make me feel guilty that I can't write them all. Damn you!

11. You are a friend I am happy to have in this fandom as well as my last one! Plus you write OTP, bonus.
12. All I can think of for you is "the girl with the adorable icon," but you seem like a very nice person. A shame you share half a name with a girl I can't stand.
13. I knew you from my last fandom, too, although our pairing lines seem destined never to cross! Ah well. I respect and enjoy your evil from a safe distance.
14. You can be a real prick at times, but I love you anyway. I always look forward to reading your posts or seeing you on AIM.
15. We share pairing loves, but not fandoms any more; that doesn't matter, though, because you're a person of amazing insight and astonishing quiet strength. I wish you only the best.

And now, the fic/bunny request.

This started, as they all do, on a dark and stormy conversation with [livejournal.com profile] tavella about new and interesting ways to make Ed's life hell plot ideas.

I'd been playing for some time with the idea of how automail was powered, and speculated that if it is powered biologically somehow (as opposed to alchemically) then it must be one heck of a drain on Ed's system. Then there was the revelation, late in the manga, that Ed's body is still physically linked to Al's, and Ed is essentially supporting Al's metabolic load in addition to his own, thus explaining his voracious appetite. So when you put that together, you have an Edward who is burning calories at almost three times the normal rate. Whew!

Which led to the question: If Ed were to be deprived of food for any length of time, which would stop working first? The automail, or Al? Or Ed? (Another interesting question would be what would happen to Al if Ed were deprived of sleep for any length of time, but that would be a somewhat more complicated scenario.)

Tav's opinion was that his link with Al, at least, was likely to be of the parasitic variety; like a pregnant mother, it'd take nutrients from his body to allow Al to continue functioning. As for the automail, I'd at least hope that Winry and Pinako could devise some safeguards that would shut it down if it ever became too much.

Then, of course, we get into the question of how do we make this into a fic? Tav and I came up with the following scenario:

Ed and Al are attached to a combat unit commanded by Roy, somewhere to the north and very cold. Their unit gets cut off from their supply train, and nobody's sure when they'll make contact again; so in the meantime, everybody is put on short rations. For Ed, this means the days of being able to just walk into the supply tent and demand food at any time are over.

Ed gets very hungry, very fast. By the end of the second day he's alraedy transmuted any available plant life in the vicinty into food and eaten it. He's not aware of either the link with Al (though he might suspect) nor the drain of the automail, so he can't give Roy any good reason why he should be given special treatment. Roy (and everyone else) figure that Ed is just being overdramatic and grumpy, and/or is too young to be familiar with real hunger, and ignore him.

After a few days (less than a week, most likely) Ed's automail stops working. Al attempts to steal food for Ed, but is unfortunately not terribly stealthy, and fails. On around the fifth day, Ed collapses in the middle of the camp and is taken to the medic, who is rather shocked to discover Ed is on the brink of death by starvation. Whoopsie. ♥


I beg one of you extremely talented writers to take up the flag!
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Date: 2005-08-03 07:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] herongale
... am I #7? (stands behind her Reki icon set with ferocious loyalty!)

Date: 2005-08-03 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Damn spiffy.

Date: 2005-08-03 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bard-linn.livejournal.com
Oooh, I like the crossing them out touch. ^^

Date: 2005-08-03 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
It seems to have been left out of the rounds this time. But without it, you can't find yourself by process of elimination! ;_;

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Date: 2005-08-03 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forgottenlover.livejournal.com
I'm either 13 or not on there at all ::pokes it::

Date: 2005-08-03 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Not on there. :) I had to get like 40 random numbers just to come up with 15 people I knew at all!

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Date: 2005-08-03 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feast.livejournal.com
Am convinced that I'm not on here at all, but if by some chance I am, then it'd probably be #12. XD

If only I had mad adoption/writing skillz, I'd pick up that bunny. But alas, I do not. It's a very good idea though, and it'll be amusing to see where this fic goes when someone picks it up. :)

Date: 2005-08-03 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Nope, not on there.

I'm really hoping somebody picks it up! ;_;

Date: 2005-08-03 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zalia.livejournal.com
Don;t think I'm on there.

That's a fascinating bunny you have ^___^ I might have a go at it myself ^^

Date: 2005-08-03 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Nope, you're not.

Date: 2005-08-03 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleedingsand.livejournal.com
I hope that if I'm on there, that I'm #15. Cause that's one of two that fits me, and the other one makes me cringe.

Date: 2005-08-03 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] youkofujima.livejournal.com
Not on there.

Date: 2005-08-03 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfbrotherjas.livejournal.com
I have too many bunnies already...



...but if I can get productive, I might give it a shot.

Date: 2005-08-03 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Yatta! Also, that icon fascinates me at the same time it repels me. What exactly is it?

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Date: 2005-08-03 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popsiclekitten.livejournal.com
Wow I _REALLY_ like that bunny. Probably won't be able to adopt it unfortuantly, my store is eating my soul.

Date: 2005-08-03 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Aww! Well, hopefully someone else will.

Date: 2005-08-03 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anax.livejournal.com
*too shy to guess on the list*

I would think that it would take longer than 5 days, even if Ed were burning energy at 3x normal. A healthy adult can fast for a month without ill effect, and although Ed is a child, he wouldn't be on the brink of death in 5 days ... that would be like saying a normal child could go from healthy to the brink of death in 15 days.

I'd also think that someone would notice him ... y'know, getting a little peaked and thin around the cheeks before he was skeletal. :D

Date: 2005-08-03 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
You're on there, actually.

Hm, it might take longer than 5 days, but not much longer, I don't think. He's a skinny little kid; most of his meat is muscle, he can't possibly have much in the way of calorie reserves. Further, if they *are* in an arctic setting, he's probably burning even higher to combat the cold. And... a normal child going from healthy to the brink of death in 15 days of no food? Sounds right to me. O.o

They might notice his face sharpening, but not much more than that; he's not the only one going hungry, after all. And he covers up so much, from collar to gloves to boots, that there wouldn't be much else to see...

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Date: 2005-08-03 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalikamaxwell.livejournal.com
I'm not there.

Date: 2005-08-04 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Nope! All hail the random number generator.

Starvation

Date: 2005-08-03 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popsiclekitten.livejournal.com
Snagged from Google Answers:
"Without food, you can last around 60 days if you are a healthy adult
with at least 11kg of fat in your body. It all depends on how much
body fat you had in the first place. No human being can survive if he
loses more than 40% of his body mass."

Then from Merck Manual:
"Starvation is the most severe form of malnutrition. It may result from fasting, famine, anorexia nervosa, catastrophic disease of the GI tract, stroke, or coma. The basic metabolic response to starvation is conservation of energy and body tissues. However, the body will mobilize its own tissues as a source of energy, which results in the destruction of visceral organs and muscle and in extreme shrinkage of adipose tissue. Total starvation is fatal in 8 to 12 wk."

"In adult volunteers who fasted for 30 to 40 days, weight loss was marked (25% of initial weight), metabolic rate decreased, and the rate and amount of tissue protein breakdown decreased by about 30%. In more prolonged starvation, weight loss may reach 50% in adults and possibly more in children. Loss of organ weight is greatest in the liver and intestine, moderate in the heart and kidneys, and least in the nervous system."

So it would definitly take longer than a few days. Based on the above, I'd probably say it would take at least a month or longer for Ed to starve to death with no food at all. With food, a few months. Damnit I've looked into this so much I'm now going to write this. Are you happy???!!??

But yah. I'm officially adopting this bunny lol. Just gimmie a few days on it. I have Sunday off (woot) will write it then.

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Date: 2005-08-03 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Keep in mind he starves three times as fast as a normal 80-pound skinny teenager would. ;)

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Date: 2005-08-03 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windandwater.livejournal.com
*looks at the list*

Rawr~?

Date: 2005-08-03 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Nope, not on there. *loves you anyway*

Date: 2005-08-03 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liete.livejournal.com
Not on there, but I think that's an interesting bunny. Hmmm...

Date: 2005-08-03 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
It is! A couple promising people have shown interest. *hopes*

Date: 2005-08-03 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com
Mmmm. There's a tempting hint, but I'm not completely certain. After all, I can't be the only evil person you know...right?

Date: 2005-08-03 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Nope, it isn't you. :) You aren't on here.

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Date: 2005-08-03 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazy-toffee.livejournal.com
Oh MY GAWD! Truly EVERYONE is doing this! ^_^ *is almost scared into following suit*

Date: 2005-08-03 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was sort of going with the crowd here... Paranoia is the word of the day. ;)

Date: 2005-08-03 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-soaring.livejournal.com
Not on there, am I? *pokes list*

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Date: 2005-08-03 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashoka.livejournal.com
I'll get AIM working again someday, I swear! *has not been saying this for months, no* Also, wow. Dammit, now I want to read the manga. *sobs*

Date: 2005-08-03 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
False promises, you hoor. e_e

The manga for what? Oh! For FMA? *blink* You hadn't already?

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Date: 2005-08-04 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharona1x2.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure I'm not on there. ^_~

I hope someone takes up your challenge. It sounds like it would be a great fic!

Date: 2005-08-04 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
Nope, you aren't! And it looks like one or two people are willing to give it a shot... *excited*
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Date: 2005-08-04 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
No. Since there are some 146 people who have me friended and this list is only of 15, most people aren't going to be on there. ;)

Date: 2005-08-04 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikah.livejournal.com
Is number 5 Chauni? :D

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Date: 2005-08-04 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wofl-iron.livejournal.com
Oh god. I'm totally 13. I just know it ^_^

Date: 2005-08-04 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wofl-iron.livejournal.com
12! I meant 12. *can't count*

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Date: 2005-08-04 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sky-dark.livejournal.com
This meme is making the rounds, ok, my guess will be - I'm not on this because though we have talked, we haven't talked and only hung in group chat boxes together I half ignore anyways XD So I know you, but I don't know you. You write some damn fine fic though.

Date: 2005-08-04 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
You are on here, actually. It was done by random number generator, not how well I know people! Or else there wouldn't be "I don't know you very well but..." entries there.

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Date: 2005-08-04 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cryogenia.livejournal.com
Amusement! I was sort of playing with something similar in the back of my head, because I ran across that manga spoiler recently.

Date: 2005-08-04 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com
It's a natural thing to wonder, if one is inclined to dwell on ways Ed's life sucks. :D

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Date: 2005-08-04 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cryogenia.livejournal.com
And damn, I can't tell if I'm on here or not - I would have guessed that I'm a prick, but sadly that job is taken XD

Date: 2005-08-04 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikah.livejournal.com
Maybe you're number nine? *Squints*

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